tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279035.post3223668411213377766..comments2022-04-13T09:08:07.220+03:00Comments on Biur Chametz: Why we must mournZman Biurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05593492318098902028noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279035.post-19807241192683890292005-08-15T19:10:00.000+03:002005-08-15T19:10:00.000+03:00There was no scorn. No derision. And nothing smug ...There was no scorn. No derision. And nothing smug about my call for unity. I am embaressed that you saw that in my words.<br><br>For a more representative look at my view, please see:<br><br>http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2005/08/ich-bin-ein-orange.html<br><br>http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2005/08/timing.html<br><br>http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2005/08/gaza-pull-out-hidden-treasures-of-gold.html <-- especially<br><br>http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2005/07/pointed-questions-for-orange-olam.html<br><br>http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2005/07/why-no-tears-for-ganim.html<br><br>Incidently, your baseless conviction that this is a "disaster" "like Oslo" serves only to undermine the very real sacrifice of the thousands of people who have willingly given up their homes and their communities for the sake of peace and security. Self-fulfilling prophesies, and all, you know....DovBearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279035.post-7560180132871759482005-08-15T19:13:00.000+03:002005-08-15T19:13:00.000+03:00Get over it, man! The temples were destroyed centu...<i>Get over it, man! The temples were destroyed centuries ago. Time to stop wallowing, no?<br><br>No.<br></i><br><br>As I wrote yesterday (in the name of SRH) we don't mourn for the Temple, but for the <i>causes</i> of the destruction, and as regular readers of my blog know I adress these causes, the causes SRH gave, on my blog almost every day.DovBearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279035.post-49327839129804655472005-08-16T09:12:00.000+03:002005-08-16T09:12:00.000+03:00I didn't accuse you of expressing scorn or der...I didn't accuse you of expressing scorn or derision. I took offense at the suggestion that we should "stop protesting and start recovering" while the traumatic process is still underway. That is simply insensitive to Jewish suffering - and appealing to unity only reinforces the inappropriateness. How can you appeal to Jewish unity while turning a blind eye to Jewish pain?<br><br>I confess I'm not familiar with your views on the disengagement, since I don't usually read your blog. I was responding to your specific comment, not your overall view.<br><br>"Self-fulfilling prophecies"? No, I don't know what you're talking about. Whether or not my expectations from disengagement are fulfilled will have nothing to do with the fact that I expressed them.<br><br>Finally, you can mourn for whatever you like, but the Jewish people mourn for the destruction of their temples and of Jerusalem. Nothing in the liturgy of Tisha B'Av addresses the "root causes" of the exile, whatever midrashic comments or Hirschian insights you may cite.Zman Biurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05593492318098902028noreply@blogger.com